Richard Cloutier: Hemsky Re-Signing Close

I never really thought that the Oilers would get back the value that they already have in the player. Just my opinion.

The longer the deal goes on, the closer to the 4.1 he's already getting it has to be.

5 is fine I guess for 2 years. What else do we have to spend it on? 5 for 4 years is disastrous.

I was hoping that we could get Smyth and Hemsky re-signing for a combined cap hit of 9 million or under. I think we could be on track still...

So.... who goes then? Horcoff

Top 6?:

Hall/Nuge/Eberle
Smyth/Gagner/Hemsky

I never really thought that the Oilers would get back the value that they already have in the player. Just my opinion.
- Lohaus

Not a bad opinion, seems to be consensus, but this time of year GM's can get a bit desperate. You never know for sure though. I would like it if he signs, then he can drop all the pressure and get back to the point per game Hemmer that we know he is.

5mil is a bit steep. Id give hemsky term for 4mil. Now EDM can deal Omark for Franson or Aulie. Or maybe PRV is deal for a Dman now.

The longer the deal goes on, the closer to the 4.1 he's already getting it has to be.

5 is fine I guess for 2 years. What else do we have to spend it on? 5 for 4 years is disastrous.

I was hoping that we could get Smyth and Hemsky re-signing for a combined cap hit of 9 million or under. I think we could be on track still...
- Morris

Hemsky is $5mil. Smyth should be around $3.5mil

is this bc no one really wants him or asking price is too high?? Even though some fans would like to see him on a different team...


cough pens cough

Not a bad opinion, seems to be consensus, but this time of year GM's can get a bit desperate. You never know for sure though. I would like it if he signs, then he can drop all the pressure and get back to the point per game Hemmer that we know he is.
- marty11

I think the biggest reason the Oilers are more interested in signing Hemsky is that the big deal they wanted just isn't there. Hemsky is worth more here than elsewhere.

So.... who goes then? Horcoff

Top 6?:

Hall/Nuge/Eberle
Smyth/Gagner/Hemsky
- Poolchamp

I don't think anyone in Edmonton has to go. They will not make the playoffs, and they wouldn't get a top 4 dman at this point in the season. They have a ton of prospects in the cupboard. Unless someone offers up something you can't refuse, then there is no point.

I think the biggest reason the Oilers are more interested in signing Hemsky is that the big deal they wanted just isn't there. Hemsky is worth more here than elsewhere.
- Maxbone

I can believe that.

The longer the deal goes on, the closer to the 4.1 he's already getting it has to be.

5 is fine I guess for 2 years. What else do we have to spend it on? 5 for 4 years is disastrous.

I was hoping that we could get Smyth and Hemsky re-signing for a combined cap hit of 9 million or under. I think we could be on track still...
- Morris

Well him at 5mil for 2 yrs does help with salary hitting the cap floor if no major moves are made and they let the young D develope. In 2 yrs his 5mil is off the books and goes for Hall and Eb's big contract.

Well him at 5mil for 2 yrs does help with salary hitting the cap floor if no major moves are made and they let the young D develope. In 2 yrs his 5mil is off the books and goes for Hall and Eb's big contract.
- poisondhearts37

Depending on how Maggy develops and whoever the Oil take at the draft, the Oilers could have quality Hemsky replacements in a year or two.

Not a bad opinion, seems to be consensus, but this time of year GM's can get a bit desperate. You never know for sure though. I would like it if he signs, then he can drop all the pressure and get back to the point per game Hemmer that we know he is.
- marty11

Listen, I’ve always been a fan of Hemsky. The only knock I have on him is the guy seems to get hurt like every second shift, and injured every few games. I used to play with a guy like that too. I never understood it but he always just seemed to be in pain.

I think if an opposing team felt that they could get him for a run, they might take it up because to me, he’s a legit 2 RW with an upside of a 1 on many nights. Very under rated shot, but probably because he never uses it when he should. I like the guy but that injury history, which was once described by someone as a flag that the player wouldn’t play through pain, would always hamper the types of offers a player of his ability should get. So yeah, the Oilers already have a better asset than they will acquire in my opinion. I’d happily keep him if all I was getting was a 18-24 in the first round and a B level prospect and someone’s pro roster junk. To me the best trade they could have made involving Hemsky was the one they turned down.

Depending on how Maggy develops and whoever the Oil take at the draft, the Oilers could have quality Hemsky replacements in a year or two.
- Maxbone

PRV package may get you a Ellis deal before Hemsky does. Only because PRV is so much younger and i could see him in the Nashville system. Outside of D to develope there is some good forwards in the EDM system.

I think you would see some improvement in Hemsky if he had a real center. Horcoff is freaking terrible. I wish him and Krejci could be on the same line...

DAMN YOU!

I think the biggest reason the Oilers are more interested in signing Hemsky is that the big deal they wanted just isn't there. Hemsky is worth more here than elsewhere.
- Maxbone

Exactly!!

PRV package may get you a Ellis deal before Hemsky does. Only because PRV is so much younger and i could see him in the Nashville system. Outside of D to develope there is some good forwards in the EDM system.
- poisondhearts37

I'd think that this isn't the best time in Nashville to be dumping a blue chip defenseman prospect with Suter and Weber's UFA years looming.

Is it a possibility they resign him so his trade value increses????

Is it a possibility they resign him so his trade value increses????
- bradjc

I would think so, but I could also see him absolutely demand a no movement clause based on this past year and a half. If he does re-sign, he probably deserves it.

I'd think that this isn't the best time in Nashville to be dumping a blue chip defenseman prospect with Suter and Weber's UFA years looming.
- Lohaus

Preds are gonna want Forwards. I think think that Suter and Weber both are gonna stay in Nashville. I was gonna say maybe Blum but im not sure who would get the better of that. Edm could use the pure Offense of Ellis.

What about Hemsky's past 5 years makes them think he is worth 5M per season with the amount of young talent on this team.

He has injuries, his inconsistent play, only has 20+ goals twice.

He does have some very nice assist seasons I will give them that.

Is it a possibility they resign him so his trade value increses????
- bradjc

Never thought of that...it could work.

From what I've heard a limited NTC will be part of the deal.

5 million per is simply too much. So much for the "hometown discount."

Considering Hemsky's injuries, I'd value him at 4 million at most. Given his supposed hard-on for Edmonton, and his desire to remain with the team long-term, he should be suggesting 3-3.5 for say 5 years.

Never thought of that...it could work.

From what I've heard a limited NTC will be part of the deal.
- Maxbone

wouldnt that hurt his trade value bc then teams would be stuck with him... i would think more teams are looking at him for a push to the playoffs or extra help... if he resigns he will be there until the deal ends IMO